Изучение английского языка

Тема в разделе 'Теория, обучение, литература, конференции и съезды', создана пользователем ERvrach, 11 ноя 2019.

  1. ERvrach

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    Форум жив! Спасибо тем, кто восстановил. Хоть часто и не захожу, но очень ценю Форум, который более 10 лет назад направил меня на истинный путь в профессии и хочу поделиться моим опытом изучения английского языка и сдачей международного языкового экзамена OET (Occupational English Test), на необходимый для возможности практиковать в некоторых англоязычных странах. В итоге я написал небольшое эссе, с ссылками, которые вы можете использовать для своей подготовке. Текст написан на английском, но для прочтения и понимания не сложен. Основные впечатления от моей подготовки:
    1. Основа ее - самостоятельная работа с языком. Никакие курсы, учебники и репетиторы не обеспечат вам готового результата. Только вы и практика.
    2. Регулярность занятий - для стабильного прогресса требуется ежедневное занятия и тотальное окружение языком даже в моменты, когда вы его не изучаете целенаправленно. Я имею ввиду слушать подкасты, передачи, аудиокниги во время рядовых бытовых занятий, когда ваше основное внимание отвлечено. Аудирование - самый недооцененный этап в изучении языка. По современным представлениям, учиться во взрослом состоянии необходимо по той же схеме, что учатся и дети - сначала понимание речи, затем разговор, потом чтение и на финише - письмо.
    3. Не заостряться на грамматике - это только двигатель языка, топливом же для него является словарный запас! Сконцентрируйтесь на вокабуляре не менее, а то и более чем просто на правилах.
    4. Постоянное поддержание интереса к обучению возможно только если наряду с обязательным "нудным прогрызанием" давать себе время изучать что-то действительно интересное вашей душе как хобби, увлечение и прочее, но полностью на английском языке.
    5. Помните, что чем меньше исходных знаний, тем быстрее идет прогресс. Соответственно на среднем уровне владения языком скорость замедляется и день ото дня кажется что не двигаешься вперед, на этом этапе многие "ломаются", но чем больше упорствуешь, чем выше чувствуешь сопротивление, тем прорыв случается больше и качественнее - не надо унывать, когда кажется, что ничего не выходит.
    6. Как только почувствуете "базовое" владение языком, приступайте к разговорной практике! Переступайте через страх ошибок и звучать глупо. В языке, как и во многих других обучающих процессах, навык приобретается только через множество ошибок и рефлексии над ними.
    Готов ответить на вопросы!


    Hello, healthcare professionals, who want to pass OET. I’m Sergei, a doctor from the middle of Russia and I cleared OET at the first attempt (L370 R390 W410 S380) on 21 September, this year. First of all, you all can do that, you need only strong passion, perseverance, clear plan and deadline throughout your preparation. I managed to prepare while having two kids (3 and 1 years old), working as an anaesthetist in a big regional hospital, with all relatives far away from us (big thanks to my wife, without her I couldn’t do that)! In general, I spent 7 months for the preparation (3 for general English preparation, 2 months for the IELTS and 2 for the OET). I’m going to tell you about my experience of self-preparation! I hope it will help!

    My started level of English knowledge was something in a range of A2-B1 and it was January 2019. I used to read a lot of medical literature before this point and was able to maintain an only simple “touristic» conversation without any particular fluency. In February, I started to study general English. For Russian-speaker students, I recommend that source http://quantum-start.com/explain/30 and an app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quantumstart.qs with an excellent grammar explanation and a great tool for self-practice (sorry, I don’t know similar staff for other languages).

    The next good resource is https://www.englisch-hilfen.de/en/ with useful grammar practice. Then I started to strengthen my vocabulary with flesh-cards. It’s a really great method of strengthening your lexical resources. https://apps.ankiweb.net/ Initially, I did common vocabulary, mostly for an IELTS. I strongly believe that if you don’t have a good base B1-2 level of English it’s too early to prepare for OET directly. There are some good Decks for that purpose - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EE6rDOoJZumSfK9AX14X710j7Mqaj4iD Try not to put a lot of new words per day, at least no more than 20. I used to do this type of studying two times a day for two months until I started to feel confident with my vocabulary. Additionally, I recommend using the next Internet facilities.

    1. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2TgqpOrU3kUTkVy5XoLow Christian is a great teacher with a lot of fun, philosophy and he uses a deep scientific approach to learning the language.
    2. https://teacherluke.co.uk/ Luke and his podcast is a source not only for listening practice, but grammar and native British vocabulary and idioms lessons especially in his “premium” subscription plan.
    3. https://www.engvid.com/ a lot of grammar, vocabulary and other staff about English in a very suitable manner.
    What I should say about listening – it’s the most undervalued method of language learning. From the beginning of my preparation, I started to listen to almost all the time of the day – while commuting to work and playing with kids, washing home and driving to the countryside etc. Having wireless earphones it’s easy to do (but I have to listen to with only one ear most of the time, as second was for heating my children ))). There are useful sources of listening:

    1. https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4 you can also install their app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bbc.globaliplayerradio.international&hl=en clear pronunciation and interesting programs guaranteed.
    2. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ted.android&hl=en TED talks – I love it. Truly inspirational stuff to get to know more about life around.
    3. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vina.pod2.economics&hl=en to be familiar with western world problems and way of thinking.
    General reading – I read such magazines as

    1. https://www.theguardian.com/international
    2. https://www.vox.com/
    3. https://www.theatlantic.com/world/
    I didn’t read them in a strict manner, mostly as leisure. Also, I watched different YouTube videos to have some rest from intense studying but still to be washed with English:

    1. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwWhs_6x42TyRM4Wstoq8HA
    2. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLXo7UDZvByw2ixzpQCufnA
    3. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu4XcDBdnZkV6-5z2f16M0g
    4. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0p5jTq6Xx_DosDFxVXnWaQ
    You could use whatever you like, just try to be in constant touch with English! My choice was due to the desire to get to know more about our world from different western prospective.

    Good source of general English learning and even conversation are - https://www.futurelearn.com/ and https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ef.efhello

    It took me to do such things from February to May. Then I started to prepare for the IELTS (May-June), but eventually, I realized that it’s a really daunting task, especially in terms of writing! Though I tried to do direct IELTS preparation, I did all the same things that I’ve already described. Finally, I made a decision to take OET and started to prepare in July. I put the date of the exam on 21 of September because it’s only one way to keep you in the right mood for preparation. What made my decision hard, that we don’t have in Russia OET exam centres and I had to go to Istanbul as the nearest place with OET facilities. It shouldn’t be mentioned that it put a big financial burden on my family, as it cost me twice (exam fees + fly tickets + accommodation etc.) But it was the right gamble!
  2. ERvrach

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    At the moment of preparation beginning, I had approximately B1-B2 level of English. I think that if you don’t have enough money to buy all official books about OET, you should stick with this unofficial by Dr Samed Alsalemi. If he is a real person – he is a great man! Thank you, Dr Alsalemi. Again, it’s more than enough to use only this book for the OET preparation. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MfNkIF3Kf7DwUQ5JK4pdgH7_3t173GcF

    Also, I used E2Language https://app.e2language.com/Account/Login?ReturnUrl=/Student/Home cheapest subscription to have a view of “official preparation provider» It’s good stuff to begin, in order to have a general understanding of the exam’s structure and it contains 5 good test samples (if take into account 2 samples on official OET site – there are 7 of them). My suggestion is to start with the hardest parts of the exam as speaking and writing.

    There are good sources of understanding of medical English and how to interact with patients:

    1. https://www.vitaltalk.org/
    2. http://www.ihi.org/resources/Pages/IHIWhitePapers/ConversationReadyEndofLifeCare.aspx
    3. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgsr_to7CZZ-GZDcwKE7Mrg
    4. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr-ODu8TnpqF2sJMi1LCM4w




    Writing.

    You should read appropriate chapter of the above-mentioned book and start practice! I did more than 30 letters. In order to find my quality of writing, I used Benchmark correction services. https://edubenchmark.com/oet-writing-correction In common, they have a good price, but the quality of the correction could really be different from letter to letter. I did 16 letters with them, and it’s more than enough to understand, what you should do during your writing part. There is my bulk of the corrected letters from Benchmark - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HNZ7zgx6hV1TqTzmzKaV-h56A_DYU17A The rest of the letters I corrected with Cambly (I’ll write further about it) tutors - Miss Sandy Louise and Hanna Wimbledon here are the letters: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rReG5mMJbzlYJMBRUIFGO6Ekqda6VDJY Having a good basic grammar structure and practice of the letter is sufficient to pass that part of the exam successfully. On 21 of September, the task was really straightforward. But it's a good idea to practice with the most sophisticated ones, as usual!

    Speaking.

    Again - read appropriate chapter of the above-mentioned book and start practice! There are two Decks for the OET that I made by myself. Its quality doesn’t good enough but there are no shared decks anyway - https://drive.google.com/open?id=19oVcwdO-Wsc3bJRmi-eClUt0IEZ1zexm

    What I understood that only one way to learn the language and start to speak fluently is to speak! In April, I started to use Cambly. It’s not an advertisement but it's a really good source to have lessons with native speakers! For instance, in Russia a good teacher of English demand more than 15 $ per hour of the lesson. And with Cambly, I could afford the most expensive plan (it’s when you buy an only one-month subscription - the longer the subscription the cheaper single lesson) with the price 12 $ per hour! Of course, there are different tutors with different quality of teaching, but I managed to find the best! Moreover, together we figured out what is OET and how to prepare for the speaking part and I write the list of them for you! Here is promo link to have free minutes to understand what it is Cambly -https://www.cambly.com/invite/sergei199

    About the tutors. First of them, in my personal rating is unequalled Miss Sandy Louise! She is an IELTS writing tutor from the USA, and initially, I practised IELTS writing task, but then I switched to OET together we could understand what is OET writing about! Sandy is very kind and passion to help people with a strong desire to learn English and finite resources! Also, she has her own FB page and provides private lessons not only with Cambly https://www.facebook.com/IELTSWritingCoach/

    Also, good Cambly tutors with healthcare background are Hanna Wimbledon (she is also an anaesthetist), Becky P (she is former GP), Roz Collins (she is a physiotherapist) and Justina A (she is a pharmacist).

    Good teachers with a lot of experience and passion are tilly anne, Marie O'C, Paul JK, Andy, Patrick Thomson, Dave R and Jane, who has experience of being OET interlocutor! If you have a subscription, you should put their usernames to tutors search and book a lesson. If there wrote that “This tutor has not opened any spots for reservations” you can message them directly and ask for the lesson.

    My way of learning with them was to have a role-play conversation according to exam circumstances and then tutors told me my mistakes and what should sound natural. I did more than 88 hours of lessons through 5 months. I think it made my English as it is now. The total cost of such lessons with Cambly for me was 731 $ in current course of the ruble. It was great and fun. All of them are very good and educated people.

    In addition, I recommend that place to practice English for free! https://www.free4talk.com/ You also could create your own OET group there.



    Listening.

    For me personally, it was the toughest part, because of all this noise in the exam room and general anxiety. I think this part shouldn’t be the first part of the exam, the second as you have to have some time to calm down. In ideal circumstances, it should be reading to face the first on exam. But we have what we have. You should keep listening to a lot but, in addition, include healthcare programs such as https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b019dl1b (you may find it in BBC radio app) and https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/.

    For training to the test, I recommend doing that using speakers, because it matters – as I know, the vast majority of the OET centres don’t provide participants with the headphones. You should be familiar with this type of work. Also, after you did all available for you OET listening samples (there are not a lot of them with good quality), I recommend doing the same job with the IELTS samples because there are a lot of them for free! The basic principle is the same – you must be able to share your attention between listening, reading, keeping an eye on script and writing! It’s a tricky job!

    Reading.

    It's the easiest part. You just read a lot and if you have good general English level it’s enough. Just do all available test samples (don’t use different books with unknown authors such as «Maggie Ryan”) and keep reading different medical scientific articles what you are interested in. Part A is stressful because of time, but practice with test samples can get reed of troubles.

    I took the exam on the British side centre in Istanbul. I can recommend that place as there good staff and in general, all was smooth and fast. There is a long road ahead; I hope we can handle all the obstacles! Wish all the best for all!
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  3. tikko

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    Спасибо большое за ваш опыт! Скажите пожалуйста, что это за такой новый экзамен OET и зачем он нужен? Вы в дальнейшем в Великобританию планируете переехать?)
  4. ERvrach

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    Здравствуйте! Дело в том, что в некоторые англоговорящие страны, для возможности работать, отдельно требуется сдавать язык (UK, Австралия, NZ..) а в некоторые нет (США), но знать то язык нужно в любом случае. До недавнего времени международно признаваемым экзаменом был только IELTS, который в силу своей монополии стал очень и очень больше похож на инструмент зарабатывания денег организаторами с вопросами к объективности оценок. Так родился OET, трудовая миграция медицинских работников одна из самых больших в мире, поэтому тест английского языка, с уклоном в медицинскую тематику стало тем решением, которое обеспечивает более объективную и узконаправленную оценку языковых знаний. Рассматриваю разные варианты, куда и как двигаться дальше.
    https://www.occupationalenglishtest.org/
  5. Юрий Моисеенко

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    Спасибо, ERvrach! Верной дорогой идете. Информация - супер, спасибо за труд.
    Что касается форума, то очень жаль, что все ушли на (в?) Фейсбук. Получилась просто помойка, где сложно что-то отыскать.
    Последнее редактирование: 17 ноя 2019
    KostasKK, Znahar, ERvrach и ещё 1-му нравится это.
  6. drager

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    Выбор можно попытаться объяснить - там главное написать, а здесь прочитать и подумать
    Znahar, урфин, tikko и 3 другим нравится это.

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